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Dr.Clock - Apr 23, 2008 - 07:45 PM
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I have no idea what this means , but I'll give you some personal thoughts about each verse :

It starts off :
What's the Achozen?
this is the question that we're asking , who are thes guys , what do they sound like ?
Deuces is wild this is pitty pat
a deuce might be the playing card , the 2 card , so the lowest card in the deck is " wild " , which means that , as they've said , Achozen is the 5% of talented innovators in society , something like that , SO the few are now wild ( self referrential ). Pitty Pat , no idea , BUT , there's something called the Pitty Pat club in the movie " Harlem Nights "
2-2 with the triple fat goose
the number 2 is the deuce card , the triple fat goose could be the mainstream artists who have been in the spotlight for too long , " the deuces are rising to power ! "
You! You aint ever placed a bigger bet,
if you were betting on the few and unknown , you placed such a good bet !
You! You aint never seen a bigger threat.
beware the Achozen , they may seem unknown , but they are a force to reckon with !
Deuces is wild getting willy off a bag of ily
Ily means internet slang , so they're getting " willy " , probably famous , getting famous off a bag of ily , internet slang , internet website , URSESSION !!! Very Happy

Iced out on the sand like a chilly willy
no idea Shocked

You! You aint ever placed a bigger bet
okay . . .
Deuces is wild, it’s a triple threat
Ah , a triple threat ! Vocals , Bass , and beats , there's 3 threats !
In the world that's been frozen , They come be Achozen
In a world that has had no motion , no hot action , Achozen comes !
Rise up from the dead , Overthrow the erosion
Shavo was " musically dead " after the breakup , but now he's rising from the dead with this project , but it will not erode with time , Achozen will be around for good ( maybe a SOAD breakup reference )
Forces of evil controlling our people, Deuces is wild and their wisdom is lethal
The people , the listeners of music are being controlled by the forces of evil , mainstream music , but Achozen are wild and wise , and their wisdom will kill off these evil forces
4:22 stop it through I can see you
at 4:22 , the evil actions of the mainstream stopped , now the fans can see them ( the preview was when we " saw " what they were capable of )
Strike a match light the sun ,Watch the preview
a little " match " ( single ) will light a sun ( album ) so for now we watch their preview ( referring to the song )
Life is a game ,Played once dogg reviewed two
life is a game ( their song ), you can play it once ( the song )and you hear it , but if you review it , you review it twice , the music and the lyrics , each has significance
3 is the view and the life we are true to
they are certain that this Rap , bass , beats is a winning mix
repeat chorus . . .
This is how I really talk , FUCK what you really thought
people have assumptions about rap , but this is how he really talks ( his true emotions ) . Forget your old ideas about rap , this is true expression
Now I’m really pop
Shit talk silly pot ,Id like to kill the cat ,Ice like the polar caps ,Jawra is ily raw
no idea . . . Shocked

So fast you kill my rap , Your phantom power,
you had your assumptions and dismissed his rap immediately , with your freedom of choice , the phantom ( invisible ) power
My anthem will strike the power ,The truths that which are right ,And which will be sanctum power
his rap will effect your beliefs , you will see the truth he's speaking , and it will make a holy site of power ( sanctum )
This is how I spit ,My night ,To this very time ,An hour with disrespect ,A light we shine
this is how he releases what's inside ( spit ) , his night , the night is a scary time ,a time where everyone disrespects each other ( gangsta rappers ) He will be a shining light of hope
What's the Achozen? ,What's the Achozen?
now he's asking to get your impression of them
repeat " in a world that's been . . .we are true to
Newer force I can see right through you ,We Achozen, we come here to free you ,So you can live in this world like we do ,Achozen few, former outcast people
Basically , they're the new force here to free us from the evil mainstream
Repeat chorus . . .

This could either be the greatest analyzation work ever , or a waste of time Very Happy

XSider1 - Apr 23, 2008 - 08:29 PM
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I liked your analyzation. It's right I think, if the given lyrics were right, too. Good job!

Dr.Clock - Apr 23, 2008 - 08:39 PM
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thanks , these rap songs can have no meaning at all , but it seems they do have a message they're sending us here

ChopSuey7 - Apr 23, 2008 - 08:52 PM
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Since when has rap had no meaning?

Dr.Clock - Apr 23, 2008 - 08:59 PM
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ChopSuey7 wrote:

Since when has rap had no meaning?

when you rap just to make a quick buck ? Like most rappers these days Sad

Jeeves - Apr 23, 2008 - 09:20 PM
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Nice interpretation, I knew there was some good meaning to this song the first time I heard it.

Bounce! - Apr 23, 2008 - 09:21 PM
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I really do like all of your lyric analysis dude! The Suite-Pee one especially.
Rap often has meaning though. I HATE rap, and some of it IS nonsence....like Sensual Eruption.

But take Eninem [idk how to spell] for example. A lot of his songs are about how hard it is to juggle being a proper father, staying with his wife, and and keeping his career going.

mattyK - Apr 23, 2008 - 10:53 PM
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Haven't read through your whole analysis yet, but I have no idea where you got ily meaning website...

a 'bag of ily' likely means a bag of weed (ily slang for illegal)

The song's not bad... interesting beat... not something I'd listen to daily though (there's only a select few rappers I do listen to though)

hackthesystem2 - Apr 24, 2008 - 12:03 AM
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Some of my favorite lyrics.

Dr.Clock wrote:

2-2 with the triple fat goose

What the fuck.

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tIced out on the sand like a chilly willy

What the fuck.

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Shit talk silly pot ,Id like to kill the cat ,Ice like the polar caps ,Jawra is ily raw

WHAT THE FUCK! Shocked

rainbows_are_gay - Apr 24, 2008 - 12:07 AM
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^ agreed

JimmySatin - Apr 24, 2008 - 01:14 AM
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im glad we havent had a
"deuces is about soad breaking up!" thread yet xD

hackthesystem2 - Apr 24, 2008 - 01:46 AM
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Yeah, cuz the lyrics are a bunch of jibberish that make no sense...but aren't most rap songs like that? Wink

youssef - Apr 24, 2008 - 03:28 AM
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i hate this song ! i hate something called rap and i dont know why shavo made this!!! i mean i cant even hear his voice! this sucks or u must turn back to metal or just stay at home!!! shavo hope u delete something called achozen cuz it will sucks!!! loser!

mattyK - Apr 24, 2008 - 06:44 AM
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youssef wrote:

best...

English...

ever! Very Happy

Sorry, not making fun, it's just when you say "Something called..." that usually means there is more than one.

I don't think Shavo's the one rapping by the way... he probably just helped write the beats and bassline.

Dr.Clock - Apr 24, 2008 - 06:47 AM
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Haven't read through your whole analysis yet, but I have no idea where you got ily meaning website...

a 'bag of ily' likely means a bag of weed (ily slang for illegal)

I searched Ily on Wikipedia ( don't stop here , there's more ) and I was directed to Internet Slang , so what does Achozen have to do with the internet ? URSESSION !

WhutUpYo - Apr 24, 2008 - 07:35 AM
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Youseff and HackTheSystem... you're both nimwits. Go listen to 98 Degrees or Britney Spears. Wtf do you dumbazzes know about music? Unlike Serj and company, Shavo took it up a notch and did something revolutionary and different with his talent. He didn't just bum off the System sound and try to sound like SYSTEM without all of system, like the others.

If people like you actually liked the music, I'd probably hate it...just for the sheer fact that I don't want to share anything in common with such imbeciles.

The song is pure genius. Anyone with half a brain can understand the meaning behind it. 4-22 stompin thru, i can see you.... can you see the goosebumps this song gave me? FUKKK YEAH real music at last. No System wannabe clone songs... SHAVO FOR THE WIN!

Dr.Clock - Apr 24, 2008 - 08:04 AM
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WhutUpYo wrote:

I see your point , I agree that this is something original and nobody can say " It's not like SOAD , it has the same sound but it's missing the others " because this is totally not a SOAD clone attempt , it's an original project , the most original and though I'm not always listening to hip hop , I know how hip hop catches on fast with everybody more than rock , so this might be the most popular Side Project , because Serj's fans are SOAD fans , Scar's fans are SOADfans , but Achozen's fans are gonna be SOADfans , Wu Tang fans , and all hip hop fans , that's a huge fanbase Very Happy

, and everybody has his own opinion so we should respect it Smile

ChopSuey7 - Apr 24, 2008 - 08:17 PM
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But Bounce! is right, you shouldn't base rap on mainstream hip-hop. A lot of rap does have real deep meaning.

Dr.Clock - Apr 24, 2008 - 08:26 PM
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Well , I'm gonna correct myself right here right now : Rap has a message and a meaning that can be delivered to the listener either straightforward or with apparently meaningless lyrics .In this case , I've uncovered a very deep message , from some very strange lyrics , therefore ALL RAP HAS MEANING , except some , " Find me in Da Club " what's the message ? That he's located inside the club for the time being ?

Voodoo_Blues - Apr 24, 2008 - 08:29 PM
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WhutUpYo wrote:

If people like you actually liked the music, I'd probably hate it...just for the sheer fact that I don't want to share anything in common with such imbeciles.

Stop reading right there. It just proves you're a tool. I'd also like if you'd stop hurling insults at board members like that, it just makes you look like a moron.

I don't think anyone here is saying the message is dumb or anything. I just think the way it was executed sucked.

hackthesystem2 - Apr 24, 2008 - 08:56 PM
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WhutUpYo wrote:

Youseff and HackTheSystem... you're both nimwits. Go listen to 98 Degrees or Britney Spears. Wtf do you dumbazzes know about music?

What do you know about music?

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Unlike Serj and company, Shavo took it up a notch and did something revolutionary and different with his talent. He didn't just bum off the System sound and try to sound like SYSTEM without all of system, like the others.

Daron wrote SOAD's music, and Serj sang it, so their stuff is obviously going to sound like system. Shavo did neither, and his music is HIP HOP, so it obviously ISNT going to sound like system.

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If people like you actually liked the music, I'd probably hate it...just for the sheer fact that I don't want to share anything in common with such imbeciles.

Yes, I don't want anything in common with you either, that's why I'm on a SOAD fansite with a bunch of people who like SOAD. Please.
Also: You are a tool.

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The song is pure genius. Anyone with half a brain can understand the meaning behind it.

Yes, or someone that does massive doses of LSD.
"Now I’m really pop Shit talk silly pot Id like to kill the cat Ice like the polar caps Jawra is ily raw "
I rest my case.

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4-22 stompin thru, i can see you.... can you see the goosebumps this song gave me? FUKKK YEAH real music at last. No System wannabe clone songs...

*sigh* It's not worth it.

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SHAVO FOR THE WIN!

COMMON SENSE FOR THE WIN!1 Rolling Eyes

Bounce! - Apr 24, 2008 - 08:57 PM
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Dude, Serj, Daron and John aren't trying to do half-ass System of a Down albums. They are doing what they fucking FEEL like doing, and just because it isn't rap or country doesn't mean it isn't different. A lot of Serj's songs were lovey-dovey, but at the same time they were kick-ass rock. System had no love songs in it. Serj also had A LOT of piano, and not just like in the background. Different than SOAD.

Serj's 2nd album is going to be JAZZ. Yet again proving that he really doesn't give a fuck about sounding like SOAD. He is doing what he wants to musically.

Dr.Clock - Apr 24, 2008 - 09:28 PM
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I don't know who to agree with ? whoa

rainbows_are_gay - Apr 25, 2008 - 10:11 PM
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youssef wrote:

calm down youssef, seriously Rolling Eyes

shavos just doin beats and bass, thats why you cant hear his voice... if you dont like achozen, dont listen to it... dont hate on it, some people do like it...

not me though buuut

Dr.Clock - Apr 26, 2008 - 09:50 AM
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Why has writing secret stuff in small letters become cool lately ? I've seen it a lot ! Like this !

Awean - Apr 26, 2008 - 10:29 AM
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Is Shavo playing bass or doing some dj stuff for Achozen on stage? Is there just few (2 to 3) guys rapping or more? silly one scartch

Dr.Clock - Apr 26, 2008 - 12:44 PM
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SILLY ONE ! Yes , he is playing bass , though in this song it's repetitive and unchanging , and he is a DJ so he's doing both I guess

Awean - Apr 26, 2008 - 03:42 PM
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On stage

I've always thought he had only two hands... Shocked

Dr.Clock - Apr 26, 2008 - 05:34 PM
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, oh I know ! Very Happy

He DJs in the studio and plays bass , but in live performances , they play the music he DJed in studio , but he playes bass on the spot !

Serj'sLUVER-YEA - May 05, 2008 - 07:31 PM
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" Find me in Da Club " what's the message ? That he's located inside the club for the time being ?

Ha ha, that was great. Not all songs in all genres have a meaning, what can I say?

I haven't got the chance to download the song, but all I could tell is that it is a rap song, and some people like it and some people don't.

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4-22 stompin thru, i can see you.... can you see the goosebumps this song gave me? FUKKK YEAH real music at last. No System wannabe clone songs...

What exactally do you mean by that?

Shallah_Diamonds - May 14, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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These are the real lyrics courtesy of the Wu-Tang Killa Bee (Killa Beez are the affiliates of the 9 Wu-Tang Clan Members "Generals") website Chambermusik.com

[Intro: RZA]
Must be Achozen...
self explanatory

[Chorus: RZA]
Deuces is wild, this is pitty pat
This song is crazy... amped...hyper, but only a small dosage of whats to come
Two-two, with the triple fat goose
this I'm not sure... but the deuces refers to Shavo's birthday (4:22)
You, you ain't never placed a bigger bet
You, you ain't never seen a bigger threat
you guys got these two lines right

[Chorus II: RZA]
Deuces is wild, getting milli' off a bag of illy
The day was crazy, getting high off some good weed
Iced out, on the sand like a chilly willy
chilling, maxing and relaxing, sitting back and feeling good
You, you ain't never placed a bigger bet
Deuces is wild, this a triple threat
again, self explanatory

[Hook: RZA]
In the world that's been chosen, they come be Achozen
in this world according to 5% Nation of Islam, which many Wu-Tang Generals and Beez practice, 85% of the population are blind, deaf, and dumb to what's going on around them. 10% understand but use their knowledge for purposes that are not righteous or noble. The remaining 5% are enlightened and use their knowledge for good. The AcHoZeN are part of the 5%
Rising from the dead, over throw the opposing
the group is not yet known, but they will arise and throw out the garbage clouding the music industry
Forces of evil, controlling our people
a reference to the enlightened 10% that are evil
Deuces is wild, and the wisdom is lethal
not sure about "deuces is wild" but the wisdom from these 5%ers will strike down the foe, it's their weapon

[Shavo Odadjian]
4-22, stomping through, I can see you
a reference to his birthday, Shavo is coming through with the rest of the crew
Strike a match, like the sun, watch the previewI have no idea
Life is a game, play war, don't refuse to
[i]the war going on between the 10 and 5 percent[/i]
Three is the few, and life we are true too
not quite sure

[Chorus]

[Beretta 9/Kinetic]
This is how I'm fully taught, fuck what you really thought
Berretta is telling you that you either like him or don't, take it ot leave it
Nine milli' pops ya top, silly pop
his lyrics are like a .9 mm, they will bust your head when you hear themLike your colon cap, ice like the polar cap
I have no clue
Jar of Israeli drop, so clash and feel me rap
again, not sure
Yo phantom power, my answer will strike the power
a bit of bragging, his rhymes are powerful, theyre the answer to what music needs
The truth is of what you write, and what ya'll recite the power
the truth are what are in your lyrics, what you recite when you listen to him are powerful lyrics
Is how I spit, my night to this very time, an hour
the very lyrics he raps right now
With just a spec, of light, we shine, shine, shine, shine, shine
with just a small amount of exposure, AcHoZeN is able to shine

[RZA]
Must be Achozen...
Must be Achozen...
Deuces is wild, this is pitty pat
Deuces is wild, this is pitty pat

[Hook]

[RZA]
You a force, I can see right through you
self explanatory
We Achozen, we come here to free you
AcHoZen has come to free you from the clutches of the 10%
So you can live in this world like we do
so you can live as the righteous 5% do
Achozen few from the outclassed people
a small number of people including AcHoZeN live righteously

[Chorus]

[Chorus II]

[Outro: RZA]
Deuces is...
Deuces is...
Deuces is...
Deuces is...
Deuces is...

just wanted to add... I joined this site after searching for the AcHoZeN lyrics but to no real avail. I came here and saw SOAD fans trying to decipher the lyrics, which to me as a Wu fan and a member of the WuTang-Corp.com website, who is used to almost cryptic/surreal imagery was kind of funny. No offense... seems to me like some may need to broaden their horizons and listen to different genres to gain an understanding of how the lyrics work and all. Kudos to those who tried... but no cigar

dogman - May 18, 2008 - 12:15 PM
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Shallah_Diamonds wrote:

No offense... seems to me like some may need to broaden their horizons and listen to different genres to gain an understanding of how the lyrics work and all. Kudos to those who tried... but no cigar

There is no need to pay them out. I too was uneducated in other forms of music until a while back in like year 10. It's also true that when you start discovering more hip hop music, the hell of a lot easier it is to pick up references along the way. In all honesty, these lyrics are not that hard to understand to begin with. I have not bothered to read the first post over, but the person who did them is from Lebenon so obviously they may have a better understanding of Arabic than English. Also, unlike me, probably over 90% of people on these forums listen to heavy rock stuff on a regular basis.

Actually I might even buy the CD when it comes out. Just for the fact that they are doing something a bit different and that the members have a great history as musicians.

Props for typing out the lyrics regardless...

Dr.Clock - Jun 01, 2008 - 07:44 AM
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lol , don't worry , I find myself reading and talking English more than Arabic most of the times Wink

BASSic - Jul 27, 2008 - 06:01 PM
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JimmySatin wrote:

im glad we havent had a
"deuces is about soad breaking up!" thread yet xD

same! i read that thread about "they say" being about SOAD breaking up! what a load of crap!

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